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Only two stations tonight. I suspect conditions were not very favourable, with only 1 RBN hit in ZL tonight.

Stations heard tonight
VK3CAB Tony - getting some practice on the paddle
VK2JDR David - inspired to switch over to the paddle!

VK3AXF Ian came back to my 12wpm calling at 09:30z and exchanged RST

73
David
VK2JDR

Interesting CW website by Gerard VK2JNGGerard VK2JNG, 09 Jan 2017 22:26

That sounds like a very positive change. I had a listen on 30m yesterday (I forget at what time) and like Bernard heard only SSB on 10120. I then had a listen on 40m to see how busy it was, and there was SSB on 7045. So I suppose a band plan can only achieve so much. I didn't read your email in time yesterday Bernard, but will try and catch up with you on 30m some time. (Do you want to nominate some time tomorrow (6 Jan)?)
Cheers, Ian.

Wyong
Michael VK2CCWMichael VK2CCW 04 Jan 2017 22:48
in discussion Forums / General Discussion » Wyong

Hi all,

Those going to Wyong this year yet again. We need to select a time to meet as we can meet up stairs again to catch up. I also have a vacant room if anyone needs accommodation for the night. There is no bed in the spare bedroom but, I have a large single matress if anyone needs help.

73 & 77 de Michael VK2CCW


Michael VK2CCW

Wyong by Michael VK2CCWMichael VK2CCW, 04 Jan 2017 22:48

GE Warren,

Thanks for your valuable feedback. Indeed the situation has worked well until now and does not seem to be causing problems. As a result of feedback while there were many asking for 3535-3570 to be returned to CW, the Technical Advisory Committee at WIA has agreed to retain 3500-3535 as exclusive CW, and 3535-3570 as shared with SSB with Digital modes shared with CW 3570-3600 and then 3600-3700 is now all SSB shared with CW and 3776-3800 is DX window SSB shared with CW.

The practical results of the change are that SSB has GAINED 20kHz (and gained increased DX band some years ago too), Digital modes have GAINED 10kHz and CW has not gained anything nor lost anything.

Of course this is not really fair because CW is growing faster than SSB use, so SSB gaining 20kHz and CW gaining none, would be unfair. HOWEVER we should keep the following in mind:

  • In future if the trend continues, 3535-3570 could always revert to exclusive CW if we find too much QRM below 3535
  • We can still use CW anywhere on any clear frequency from 3500-3700 and 3776-3800

CW operators may wish to make use of the 3776-3800kHz DX Window since the propagation is better there for DX than at 3500-3510 DX Window, because it is closer to MUF. This DX window is open to CW as well, although that is not clearly mentioned and has not been understood, it is in fact the case.

If SSB operators find too much CW in the top end DX window (open to advanced class licensees only) and if CW finds too much QRM in the bottom 35kHz exclusive CW band, the band plan can be re-visited in future and will likely result in harmonisation with other regions, and granting 3500-3570 as exclusive CW.

For now from my observations, there is enough space on 80m for every mode, with NONE of the above mentioned bands being over-crowded (outside of major contests).


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

After TAC received feedback and technical arguments, the band plan is to be updated as follows:

10100-10130 CW only
10130-10150 Narrow Band Digital Modes and CW

SSB will be allowed during local daylight hours (local at the transmitting station) 10125-10135 only.


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

BJR Gerard et Ian,

After TAC received feedback and technical arguments, not quite as good as your preferred Option 4, but still better than Option 3, the band plan is to be updated as follows:

  • 10100-10130 CW only
  • 10130-10150 Narrow Band Digital Modes and CW

SSB will be allowed during local daylight hours (local at the transmitting station) and 10125-10135 only.

Naturally it will take a while for this to get around to SSB operators, and they may need to be persuaded gently and politely once the new band plan is up on the site, and VKCW will also endorse the WIA-sponsored Band Plan by publishing it too and encouraging other organisations to do so too. The Band Plan is NOT only for WIA members as the WIA themselves point out but some amateurs fail to realise.

It is also voluntary, so if people don't follow it they cannot be forces, as you know it is not an ACMA matter. HOWEVER, it should be obvious to SSB operators that if they continue to cause QRM to CW (or data) and operate outside HJ (local daylight) at HN (local night) and outside of 10125-10135kHz, then complaints will be made and requests to change the band plan further, or ACMA may then rule ONLY narrow band modes be allowed on 30m in line with international recommendations. If that happens, SSB will not be allowed to operate or they lose licenses.

Obviously, with this explained even those who are not cooperative may realise it is in their best interests to follow band plans that have been agreed after consultations and feedback, than to disregard them and pay the price.

It has also been pointed out that split operations on 30m are on average the main cause of harmful QRM to CW operators, and a similar approach may be taken which may result in split operations being disallowed. I know there are those that will say "that can't happen" but I know just how it can. I think it'll soon be necessary to address that.


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

Hi again Warren,

After TAC received feedback and technical arguments, the band plan is to be updated as follows:

10100-10130 CW only
10130-10150 Narrow Band Digital Modes and CW

SSB will be allowed during local daylight hours (local at the transmitting station) 10125-10135 only.


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

Re: 30m Band
VK5EEEVK5EEE 04 Jan 2017 06:55
in discussion Forums / General Discussion » 30m Band

BJR Gerard,

Best times on 30m for DX are after dark, I find in the late evening the band is open to all Pacific, All Asia, All Africa, and much of America and sometimes Europe too, all at the same time! Not that you will get them with 1W of course!

With 1W you have to work as close to MUF as possible to get maximum results, and during the day inter-VK MUF would usually be at 20m or 17m in this season. But in the evening it will drop down, and 20m still be likely best, but 30m good if no QRM!

As to SSB on 10120, the new band plan will shift SSB further upwards to 10125-10135, according to TAC reacting on feedback and technical arguments, and also restricted to daylight hours, so after darkness when you can do DX on 30m should be no VK SSB.

Naturally that will take a while to propagate to the various SSB users however, unless someone politely comes up on SSB and explains it to them, but best wait for the new band plan to be published so it can be referred to.


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

Re: 30m Band by VK5EEEVK5EEE, 04 Jan 2017 06:55

Agree with you Ian. Option 4 is my preferred one. My feeling is that the IARU band plans will be more adhered to then the WIA band plans.

I have used SSB on 30m band at a couple of occasions but happy to see it CW exclusive.

Gerard VK2JNG

Re: 30m Band
Gerard VK2JNGGerard VK2JNG 04 Jan 2017 01:34
in discussion Forums / General Discussion » 30m Band

Nothing heard except for SSB on 10.120.

Gerard VK2JNG

Re: 30m Band by Gerard VK2JNGGerard VK2JNG, 04 Jan 2017 01:34
30m Band
Gerard VK2JNGGerard VK2JNG 04 Jan 2017 00:53
in discussion Forums / General Discussion » 30m Band

What are the best times for the 30m band. Haven't used it much lately. For the next half hour I am sending CQ call on 10.120 running 1W.

Any takers?

Gerard VK2JNG

30m Band by Gerard VK2JNGGerard VK2JNG, 04 Jan 2017 00:53

That sounds like a mighty fine idea Lou. You are also welcome to visit us at the time in Hahndorf. You can then taste my famous (I wish) chicken pizza.

Gerard

Hi Gerard, if we are around at that time we'll be very happy to meet you and welcome you here.


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

We hope to be visiting South Australia in May 2017. This coincides with the WIA AGM which we will be attending for the first time. Hope to explore some of the areas around Adelaide and hopefully have HF/2M/70cm contacts as well as meeting other Hams. Will enter SA early May.

Gerard VK2JNG

This post will be updated throughout the month.

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Qualifying are the 0830Z 7051.2 Net (2 points per check in) and any time announcing QTX on 14349 (1 point AM, 1 point PM, 2 points for 0400UTC or 0600UTC Net QNI). Participation in the CQ CWB QTC events are worth 2 points per day. Please be sure to notify me of any participations that I was not part of to ensure your totals are updated accordingly.

Bronze: 2 or more points
Silver: 10 or more points
Gold: 30 or more points


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

January QNI Totals by VK5EEEVK5EEE, 03 Jan 2017 11:35

Congratulations to the following 18 stations who achieved QNI Awards for December:

Bronze: 3D2AG, VK1MWI, VK2BTJ, VK2FGBR, VK2JDR, VK3IM, VK4CU, VK4IL, VK4OP, VK7RO
Silver: VK2CCW, VK3CAB, ZL1NZ
Gold: VK2MZ, VK4QC, VK5EEE, VK6RR, VK7MA

Currently this is based on 2 points for checking into a qualifying net (currently 0830Z 7051.2 Net), and 1 point at any time on 14349, during the calendar month for Bronze, at least 10 points for Silver, and at least 30 points for Gold.

Please ensure I receive QNI information for nets in which I was absent. You can do this via QTC (to increase your sent QTC total) to me or via VK2MZ, VK4QC, VK6RR, or via Email.

All the above stations also qualify for CWB Communicator Certification (CCC) if additionally having sent at least 5 QTC within the past 6 months, and received at least 5 QTC within the past 3 months.

Other than those already qualified as CCC, namely VK2MZ, VK4QC, VK6RR, if any others have done so, please let me know so you can be listed as a Certified Communicator for CWB message handling.

Hopefully these awards will help to show our appreciation to the above many stations for their public spirited participation and training, furthering the cause of CW and emergency communications preparedness.

You should also appear in the March issue of QNI Newsletter from the Radio Relay International.


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

December 2016 QNI Awards by VK5EEEVK5EEE, 03 Jan 2017 11:12

I see no reason for any SSB on 30m. Do WIA disagree with the IARU reasons for not allowing SSB, or is there some ‘Australia-specific’ argument? Why not keep it simple and follow the IARU recommendations? This is my (much) preferred option.
I believe that 10120 is the SKCC suggested calling/meeting frequency, so certainly I would like to see no SSB here. Restricting SSB to daylight hours would be an improvement on the current plan, but I see no need for such a complication. As to emergencies, surely in a true emergency all band plans give way to expediency?
73 de Ian.

From Australia's "NSA" John VK4TJ:

I don't think I have ever heard VK SSB above 10135 carrier freq.

Neither have I. So they don't use the top end in any case, and they do use the bottom end and cause QRM there. Hence, the idea to shift the band, and make it a LITTLE narrower (as it is never ever congested), and restrict to Local Daylight hours, and ask IARU approval for that.


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

Hi Warren,

you have misunderstood the IARU and radio-scientific definition of daylight hours is the LOCAL at the transmitting site. It is not a fixed time, you look out the window, if it is (still) daylight you can transmit, if not, you go QRT. Because propagation doesn't follow the clock but nature, so that is how they define it.

Australia is not only disobeying the worldwide IARU resolution regarding 30m, but it could still easily get approval for LOCAL DAYLIGHT operations if it asked, and no one will object as no signal will go out of VK.

As to the frequencies, in a year of listening to the whole 30m band, during the day the most SSB I've heard are 2-3 simultaneous conversations, and most of the time none. Hence, 10122-10140 is more than sufficient, and although currently given as 10115-10140 in practice almost always 10120 and 10115 are used and nothing else. Hence my suggestion 10122-10140 as that offers USB:

10122, 10125, 10128, 10131, 10134, 10137 —- six channels (if they space 3kHz apart) - no inter-SSB QRM, and they can then use 10125 as the main calling frequency instead of, as at present, 10115 and 10120.


77 de Lou, VK5EEE

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